Analysis of an Assassination


https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/09/analysis-of-assassination.html?

Thomas Wiktor summarizes his detailed analysis of the murder of Trump supporter Jay Danielson:

Let’s consolidate the FACTS in the murder of Aaron “Jay” Danielson.

These are only the things I know for sure.

No theorizing.

It was a planned, premeditated sectarian assassination carried out by a death squad of six active participants.

It’s not possible to know if there were more people in addition to the four males and two females.

Read the whole thing. And realize this is why it is very important to keep out of the cities, especially Democrat-controlled cities, and stay away from Antifa. They are being actively protected by sympathetic state and local authorities and their actions have been sanctioned; there is no point in mass public demonstrations and even passing confrontations could put you at risk of a similar operation.

You do not know your enemy, so don’t fail Sun Tzu 101 by putting yourself in a situation where you are as likely to lose as to win.

Antifa is playing for keeps. You are not. So don’t engage.VD at 9/06/2020 04:12:00 PM

90 comments:

  1. liberranterSeptember 06, 2020 4:18 PMRead the whole thing. And realize this is why it is very important to keep out of the cities, especially Democrat-controlled cities…

    Which, for all practical intents and purposes, is nearly ALL American cities. It would much, much easier, and more helpful, to put together a list of cities that are NOT under control of the Demonrats and are thus reasonably safe to visit. That’s bound to be a VERY tiny list.Reply
  2. GettimothySeptember 06, 2020 4:29 PMLeave this to the feds.

    If they didn’t have the transcripts before, they do now.


    Wictior admits when he is wrong; him saying, “I have never seen this…before” is wonderful. Good on him, huge fan base abd good creds with the normies.


    However, regarding “Trust the Feds” , he will probably have to mea culpa that too; The (((renegades))) occupy the FedGov minus Trump and his loyalists; it is a better assumption to think of Trump as behind enemy lines with a loyallist cadre.

    Aside, Wictor’s work on N.K and Saudi Arabia is perspective changing.


    Reply
  3. boogeymanSeptember 06, 2020 4:32 PMThe financiers and top level organizers have to be dealt with. The question seems, at least from here in the peanut gallery, is Trump able and willing to root out such people and deal with them? The FBI used to love nothing more than infiltration and busting biker gangs. I wonder if they’ll show the same zeal in dealing with antifags and Burn Loot Murder, or are there enough anti-Trumpers still there such that they drag their feet?Reply
  4. Andrea Daley UtronebelSeptember 06, 2020 4:58 PMSee it this way. Antifa Janissary or Antifanissary are doing us a favor by messing up Liberal Democratic cities. If we stay away, the main struggle becomes one between affluent globo libby-dib yuppies and Antifa Jihadis. Since the affluent class funded and enabled Antifa, let them suffer the brunt of the madness.

    How glorious to see libby-dib cities like Portland and Minneapolis turn to crap.Reply
  5. RedbeardSeptember 06, 2020 5:00 PMWar was always based on fashion. Why wear a uniform like a maga hat at all? Is it worth it?Reply
  6. Dr. JSeptember 06, 2020 5:00 PMHe’s absolutely right – these deep blue cities are already lost territory – have been for some time. Yeah it was nice to hit a fancy restaurant and get some foie gras once a year, maybe hit a show or a ball game. Those things are all gone due to fake plague anyway – courtesy of the Dem governors of these blue dystopias.

    No need to go in groups of 2’s or 3’s and risk getting assassinated. You’re just providing training fodder for the thugs and losing voters on our side.Reply
  7. lowercasebSeptember 06, 2020 5:02 PMAntifa is playing for keeps. You are not. So don’t engage.

    This is EXTREMELY wise advise. You are not throw-away toy soldiers like the enemy. Stay safe and keep making families.Reply
  8. Damelon BrinnSeptember 06, 2020 5:03 PMYou don’t invade enemy territory unless you have the force to take it. Obviously no one’s even thinking in those terms yet, and if anyone had the wherewithal to try it, they’d end up fighting the military, which would suit the enemy just fine.

    Can’t deny the bravery of those who want to ride in and are willing to risk themselves, but good sense should prevail. Whenever Americans stay out of the way for a while, the enemies start attacking each other. Just let them. If they come to another Kenosha, that’s different.Reply
  9. UnknownSeptember 06, 2020 5:18 PMTrump behind enemy lines? I really worry that Roy Cohn and his associates got their hooks into Trump early. Keep in mind that he’s not really one of us (white nationist). The right side of the kosher sandwich? Jury still out.Reply
  10. Mr.MantraManSeptember 06, 2020 5:20 PMHow do we keep the Left over reacting and shooting themselves in the foot? And has the Left updated the playbook since the commies of the 20th century correctly decided to take over the major cities and let the rural bumpkins fall in line? I look at it this way in this day and age the talent is outside of the major cities and the cities are repositories for human debris. What do you win by winning NYC, Chicago, Portland? IMO decaying infrastructure, a feminized population on various drugs, crappy over priced colleges, low IQ Democratic voters, some victory.Reply
  11. Noah B.September 06, 2020 5:28 PMWhat is Wiktor claiming is happening here that has never happened in any other country?Reply
  12. Guy IncognitoSeptember 06, 2020 5:36 PMI’m not convinced of his transcript, but the sequence of events breakdown is spot on.

    There had better be a Federal reckoning soon.
    Reply
  13. WalpurgisnachtSeptember 06, 2020 5:40 PM“Antifa is playing for keeps. You are not. So don’t engage.”

    So when will it be time for us to start playing for keeps?ReplyReplies
    1. RadixMalorumSeptember 06, 2020 6:06 PMIf you need someone else to tell you when then you’re not ready to play for keeps.
    2. TridSeptember 06, 2020 7:23 PM“when will it be time”

      That’s something you have to figure out for yourself. For many people, even combat veterans, they are hurtling towards a type of conflict they have never experienced before. It’s not the type of conflict that can be entered before each person is ready in their heart
    3. Guy IncognitoSeptember 06, 2020 9:36 PMThat’s something you have to figure out for yourself. For many people, even combat veterans, they are hurtling towards a type of conflict they have never experienced before. It’s not the type of conflict that can be entered before each person is ready in their heart

      If what I saw in Ramadi in 2005 is any indication, I’ve seen it before. Lots of targeted killings and intimidation.

      I’ve literally kicked in a door to the screams of terror from women and children, and when they realized it was just “amrikiin” they calmed down. We found out that two nights prior, insurgents had kicked in the door of the home two doors down, dragged two men out, and executed them in the streets.

      The hospital in Ramadi had a morgue that was about the worst thing you can imagine, and it was always full or overflowing.

      The difference between being a 20 something kid with no wife or children and the thought of the same thing happening here is sobering.

    4. KeaponLaffinSeptember 07, 2020 2:23 AMWhen will it be time?
      I’m pretty sure sun Tzu mentioned that. Something like never interrupt your enemy when they’re making mistakes. Although with modern liberals, never interrupt them when they’re shooting themselves in the foot and never interrupt them when they pause to reload and then blast their own knees off.
      Fight if they come to your doorstep, otherwise just let evil destroy itself.
  14. Dan in GeorgiaSeptember 06, 2020 5:45 PMWictor is quite a character. He’s financially secure and has a lot of time to do research. And he does that a lot. Yeah, he’s a big Israel fan-boy and despises Assad in Syria, but he’s a good read. I heard about SA and Israel being secret allies from him first. Makes sense, since they all are enemies of Iran. He disses the Russians a lot too, but that may have to do with being allied with Syria and Iran. His analysis of fuel-air explosives is impressive.

    @COsweda on Twitter.Reply
  15. Edgar AbbeySeptember 06, 2020 5:47 PMThis is why the Democrats are getting so triggered by the Trump boat parades. They can’t send their militants in Antifa and Black Lives Matter to assault Trump supporters on the water.Reply
  16. VDSeptember 06, 2020 5:47 PMSo when will it be time for us to start playing for keeps?

    Who knows? Who cares? The point is that all of the LARPers and preppers and armchair generals and Smart Boys and tacticool collectors and MAGA marchers observably are not, whereas Antifa observably is.

    So stop pontificating, stop posturing, and stay out of trouble.ReplyReplies
    1. Zeroh TollrantsSeptember 06, 2020 7:00 PMI wish I could tattoo this on right wingers’ foreheads with a cattle brand.
    2. Slippin JImmySeptember 07, 2020 4:46 AMYou can start playing for keeps any time you like but you’re going to need to accept all that entails – the necessity of killing or maiming people, and the very real possibilities of being maimed, killed, or incarcerated yourself, not to mention the risks to your loved ones.
  17. JerothSeptember 06, 2020 5:47 PM“Trust the Feds”

    If right wing extremists were engaging in this kind of behavior, the Feds would go full Waco on anyone associated with it. The Feds also just told me that “White supremacists” are the greatest terrorist threat our country faces. I’m not gonna go sight seeing in the middle of an Anitfa riot, but I sure as hell ain’t trusting these morons, either.

    Reply
  18. VDSeptember 06, 2020 5:48 PMWhat is Wiktor claiming is happening here that has never happened in any other country?

    Read it again. You clearly didn’t understand what he wrote.Reply
  19. VDSeptember 06, 2020 5:49 PMI’m not convinced of his transcript

    The transcript is correct up to the shots. Both end sooner than the transcripts do. One of them is more clear than the other.Reply
  20. GammaCatchSeptember 06, 2020 5:56 PMThis all confirms what VD has said for years. That 2030-33 timeline for The Official End of the United States is a real thing and it is here. Well, I don’t know about you guys, but I certainly failed at waking anyone up or getting anything done. Gave all my money and time to the wrong people for 20 years and now I’m too old and it’s too late. I suspect none of us will live to see our Philosophy, Culture, and History vindicated.Reply
  21. Christian SchulzkeSeptember 06, 2020 6:10 PM@13 “when will it be time”

    Antifa has institutional support, we don’t. It’s one thing for a group of friends and neighbors to defend their neighborhood from being looted and burned, it’s quite another to remove yourself from such support and go into the lion’s den.Reply
  22. Brick HardslabSeptember 06, 2020 6:10 PMI don’t think antifa organizers care they are losing this stage.

    Looking at this and their organization, I think they are training for the next phase.

    They can’t get most of these knuckleheads into the police or military. Where else will they get training to street fight?

    I had until this year more training and experience in riots than most. I’d be scared to go toe to toe with these guys. Rioters don’t do what antifa is doing. They don’t organize, train, plan practice, have tactics or even a braincell.

    Rioters riot because it’s fun. These guys are training for street fighting, against who is the question.

    They also get a pass for being armed over and over again, that takes at least part of the political establishment’s backing. Which side is wargaming a military coup in November? Which side is throwing up trial balloons?

    Whatever they’re doing, they’re not larping. They’re pushing, seeing how far they can go and planning for the next phase.Reply
  23. ThatWouldBeTellingSeptember 06, 2020 6:10 PM@4 Andrea Daley Utronebel:

    See it this way. Antifa Janissary or Antifanissary are doing us a favor by messing up Liberal Democratic cities.

    Not when a lot of the locusts who helped make them that way decamp to Red states.

    @10 Mr.MantraMan:

    How do we keep the Left over reacting and shooting themselves in the foot?

    Trump’s attacking their status using Twitter and other media helps a lot. Or see this “pure hardcore smash-mouth politics” ad from his campaign.

    Extra value to those who know about Harris laughing … let me quote the Instapundit who also personally brought the above to my attention (he’s putting out a lot of content recently, I’m sure worried as the rest of us are):

    LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE GROOMED THROUGH THE RANKS IN A ONE-PARTY STATE, SHE’S JUST NOT A VERY GOOD CANDIDATE: “Kamala Harris has this revealing verbal tic, where she simply repeats herself over and over when she cannot construct a logical argument.” And when she’s really stuck, she adds peals of Hillary-like fake laughter.

    Looks like the campaign has identified this as one of her weak and very exploitable spots. Like the best propaganda, which it of course is, it presents the truth in an unfavorable light, in this case will prompt a lot of people to notice these tics going forward.

    BTW, remember that many Presidential campaigns only get serious after Labor Day (tomorrow). Team Trump has just begun.

    (There are exceptions; for 1996, Clinton used illegal (what a quaint word today!) coordination to define Bob Dole from before the first primary, Dole never recovering.)Reply
  24. xevious2030September 06, 2020 6:15 PMThis is total war, in the early stages. If you step in the arena, that’s the arena your life is pledged to. There’s no going back from that, no going home, only war. Victory or death.ReplyReplies
    1. LaconicSeptember 06, 2020 7:22 PMWith your shield or on it.
  25. doctrevSeptember 06, 2020 6:27 PMWalpurgisnacht wrote:
    So when will it be time for us to start playing for keeps?



    If you have to ask, it isn’t time yet. The easiest, no-effort way is to tie your response to the group you decided to obey. President Trump, Proud Boys, Spongebob- someone says green light, and you go loud.

    If you’re going in alone… well, you certainly don’t need anyone’s permission. Breivik and Rittenhouse didn’t.Reply
  26. UnknownSeptember 06, 2020 6:30 PMVox is to be commended for the last three or four post. I don’t know who’s feeding him information but I’m not seeing it anywhere else. Concerning TR “unprecedented” comment; you have to watch the video of the young girl embedded in the tweet. He speculates that it’s the activation for the death squad hit. I think??Reply
  27. Doktor JeepSeptember 06, 2020 6:49 PMThey follow a political doctrine that has murdered tens of millions. Why expect anything less of these implications of late. I hope the boomers and hannitizered see how serious this is.
    While it’s sound advice not to engage Antifa in the field they already control, with meta-leversge, I must add a deeper concern.
    So we don’t go marching into the box traps of the hit teams, but in Soviet America,death squad comes to you.

    What my fear is, one does not go to these lengths just to kill a random normiecon.
    The motive of this particular hit I’m not sure of. Maybe they needed to up the score? Or at worst a dry run. Maybe even their leaders are pissed off that they did this too soon and showed us what to expect. But then the leftists and globalists also like to tell the victim what their intent is.

    My concern is that what we saw is a demonstration of some sort how they are going to operate on higher value targets. I don’t think Bubba and his Trump bumper sticker is in trouble. I don’t know what the criteria is. But whatever the criteria for target selection is, they have full access to all of the profiles and information on just about anybody, with big Tech and leftist think tanks cooperating. If they pull a coup in November or January, all big Tech has to do is throw a switch and create an information blackout and important people on the right start getting whacked.
    So while standing down in the field is sound advice, personal security measures, and “head on a swivel” are a must. They are not going to care if your kids are with you.Reply
  28. Gregory the TallSeptember 06, 2020 7:05 PM@24 You obviously are deliberately obfuscating the issues at hand.Reply
  29. Hammerli 280September 06, 2020 7:08 PM@27: I’m seeing this information elsewhere.

    I agree with Vox. Right now, our people are in the same tactical situation as race rights activists in the South circa 1960. Antifa/BLM (two sides of the same Communist coin) are in the role of the KKK…they provide muscle. But they operate under cover from Democrat-run local governments.

    At this moment, Trump has control (mostly) of Federal law enforcement and the military. He appears to be following a strategy intended to take and hold the moral high ground, by letting affairs deteriorate until the general public demands action to suppress the Communists. And will not ask too many questions about the level of force employed.

    And it will take significant force. Not to mention massive intelligence work. The targets are not the low-level troops, but their command structure. And their allies in both local government and the Propaganda Press. Put bluntly, Shoot The Reporter First.

    My biggest worry is the Dems stealing the election. Communists with FEDERAL officials, not merely local, running interference. That’s where it gets really ugly.Reply
  30. VDSeptember 06, 2020 7:13 PMWhat my fear is, one does not go to these lengths just to kill a random normiecon.

    Stop living in fear. You didn’t understand what you read. They did go to that length because they needed to change the Narrative from The Hero Kyle Rittenhouse.

    And they were successful with you. What has changed? Literally nothing. But now, you’re afraid.Reply
  31. UnknownSeptember 06, 2020 7:13 PMI don’t know about the advisability but, I would love to see Trump address the nation. Lay out all these shenanigans. The security apparatus has more, way more, than open sources. Use the bully pulpit.Reply
  32. Stryker4570September 06, 2020 7:13 PMUse what’s left of the time to plan, prep, practice, and do PT. Very few of us are in good enough shape for what is coming. Network in your neighborhoods and determine who is trustworthy and who is not. Even if you haven’t started, start now, better late than never, some is better than none.Reply
  33. Gregory the TallSeptember 06, 2020 7:21 PM2 of the 3 videos in the tweet apparently have been vanished now.Reply
  34. Gregory the TallSeptember 06, 2020 7:25 PMA month ago in Mannheim, Germany, “activists” managed to stop the coal supply of a power station for more than 5 hours almost causing a blackout for 2,5 million people which would probably have killed dozens in hospitals and other situations where electricity is important to save lives or keep someone alive. The police let them do this for such a long period and to my knowledge did not even take down the identities of most of the “activists”.Reply
  35. Gen. KongSeptember 06, 2020 7:28 PMI’ve been aware that Antifa is extremely well-funded and supplied since the accounts started to appear of pallets of bricks dropped in advance, along with 55-gallon drums of what appear to be milkshakes – filled with concrete plus fuel and even weapons. It was obvious from the first riots in Minneapolis that there was command and control in play. There is no question that all officials and police in every single Pedocrat controlled area are accomplices.

    What’s kind of a surprise is how thoroughly well-organized the killing of Danielson was. Wictor’s theory that they decided to kill him based on a) conversation overheard in a bar; and b) his wearing of a hat (either Patriot Prayer or MAGA) is plausible. The only reason Reinoehl ended up getting what was coming to him is thanks to his Vice interview. The Portland police apparat was clearly going to let him walk. The question remaining is whether Reinoehl’s “mostly peaceful” arrest was the result of Federal Marshalls or the criminals in the area LE cleaning up any potential problem arising as a result of the video.

    The problem of law-enforcement being allies of Antifa is not only local but extends to many levels of the regime in Washington DC, including FBI (totally compromised), sections of DHS (see here), the military, federal judges (including Thomas Cullen, a judge who has consistently sided with Antifa prior to being appointed to the federal bench by Donald Trump). Obviously those who give Trump lists of recommended judicial appointments are working in conjunction with Antifa as well. Sections of the military are likewise compromised. This is what Anonymous Conservative has been preaching for some time. The extent of enemy infiltration and subversion of all institutions at all levels is greater than most of even the red-pilled suspect. This whole event pretty much proves his point. As noted, it’s not a good idea to engage an enemy when you really don’t know who they are.

    VD’s posts here over the last few days have been very informative and the info presented needs to be kept in mind always until the coming war is either resolved or the enemies are revealed more than they are at present. No police can really be trusted. Not even in red-state areas.Reply
  36. sammibanditSeptember 06, 2020 7:29 PMThanks Vox. More than you know. Thanks.Reply
  37. Hammerli 280September 06, 2020 7:30 PMhttps://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2020/09/your-fbi-at-work-in-portland.html?fbclid=IwAR3ffhJjh3lcKBX25A0bDWLfiS83E0axqMTjER-JfJOO_z2qjJtDleSZS_s#more

    Has some good comments on the FBI’s work. Seems like there’s some good stuff happening behind the scenes.Reply
  38. OswaldSeptember 06, 2020 7:39 PMJust going to throw this out.

    I saw antifa once in DC. There was definitely a satanic presence about them. This is more than a move by the “far left.”Reply
  39. Gen. KongSeptember 06, 2020 7:40 PMWhat is Wiktor claiming is happening here that has never happened in any other country?

    The sophistication of the Antifa death squad. Bolsheviks elsewhere had kill lists and went hunting for them – the victims decided well in advance. Wiktor thinks they decided to off Danielson that evening. It’s not a certainty but it’s plausible nonetheless. We don’t know for sure. If it turns out Danielson had some Seth Rich kind of connection with the oligarchy, the hit would take on a different color. They erased the shooters of Rich (MS-13) to make sure they wouldn’t be able to talk.Reply
  40. Tanjil BrenSeptember 06, 2020 7:49 PMExcellent advice here.
    The fact that these ‘riots’ are being highly organised and centrally managed and coordinated was obvious quite some time ago.
    But there’s danger in that for them too, given how long things have been running now, because it’s highly likely that the leaders and coordinators will all have been identified by now.Reply
  41. Chip HazardSeptember 06, 2020 7:55 PMI observe. I game the outcome as far as I can with my knowledge.
    It may be good for many of us to look back on the deposing of the Romanov dynasty through the end of the Russian Civil War and see what we can learn from that. The parallels are more than I care to remind myself of (the shutting down of transports, etc).

    The Russian landscape is not the American landscape, our ‘flyover country’ isn’t frozen tundra. However the cities were clearly in Bolshevik hands after 1918, even after various uprisings of the Kronstat sailors, etc. during the Civil War, as the apparatus (as in our Lefty cities) was tightened.

    There is no traditional ‘front’. The front is everywhere, even in your own family. As Vox wrote, stay out of trouble and look to your own. Accept nothing but total loyalty and allegiance and mark those who are not.

    Some of you are asking, when can we start playing for keeps? Don’t worry. When the revolution comes, everyone will know about it.Reply
  42. ThatWouldBeTellingSeptember 06, 2020 8:07 PM@28 Doktor Jeep

    My concern is that what we saw is a demonstration of some sort how they are going to operate on higher value targets. I don’t think Bubba and his Trump bumper sticker is in trouble. I don’t know what the criteria is. But whatever the criteria for target selection is, they have full access to all of the profiles and information on just about anybody, with big Tech and leftist think tanks cooperating. If they pull a coup in November or January, all big Tech has to do is throw a switch and create an information blackout and important people on the right start getting whacked.

    Matt Bracken has written up how one such scenario might go. Copy since WordPress took down the original WRSA site they were hosting.Reply
  43. Tanjil BrenSeptember 06, 2020 8:17 PM“There was definitely a satanic presence about them. This is more than a move by the “far left.””

    Absolutely. (It’s not echoing the ‘left hand path’ for nothing…)Reply
  44. VFM #7634September 06, 2020 8:31 PMWhich, for all practical intents and purposes, is nearly ALL American cities. It would much, much easier, and more helpful, to put together a list of cities that are NOT under control of the Demonrats and are thus reasonably safe to visit. That’s bound to be a VERY tiny list.

    @1 liberranter
    The consistent pattern is that cities which have large populations of left-wing whites are those with the major antifa infestations. Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, NYC, and DC all have that in common. Having lots of blacks doesn’t appear to be as much of a factor, if the local whites are more centrist.

    Stop living in fear. You didn’t understand what you read. They did go to that length because they needed to change the Narrative from The Hero Kyle Rittenhouse.

    And they were successful with you. What has changed? Literally nothing. But now, you’re afraid.


    @32 VD
    For me at least, the Danielson killing didn’t change anything. It rather came across as a petulant tit-for-tat for Kyle Rittenhouse more than anything, to assuage their egos. They’ve killed about 30 other people so far, so we already know they’re dangerous. And the federales wasting Reinoehl definitely blunted the desired effect.

    I saw antifa once in DC. There was definitely a satanic presence about them. This is more than a move by the “far left.”

    @42 Oswald
    On the Kyle Rittenhouse DOOM meme, the dude in the foreground (Grosskreutz) clearly has a black neckerchief with two Baphomets on it. The meme maker knew what he was doing.Reply
  45. ScottCSeptember 06, 2020 8:39 PMVox, since there is a big Jewish contingent involved in these protests, do you think the tactics are being passed down from a Mossad agent, or someone who has connections to the Mossad?Reply
  46. Bradford C. WalkerSeptember 06, 2020 8:44 PMStay home and grill. Deny them targets. Be prepared to vote, and give every single race your full attention; we got here in part due to Americans ignoring down-ticket races for decades, and here we are.

    The best thing to do is to focus on the fellow travelers in local government and media that give political and narrative cover to the street operatives. Without them the street ops are not nearly so able to move unmolested. Organize with others near you. Attack their frame, support political opponents to them, conduct lawfare, etc. as best you can- all things you can do while waiting for the steaks to cook up on the grill as you relax in the backyard.ReplyReplies
    1. NostromoSeptember 07, 2020 9:43 AMHard to vote for a lot of the down ticket. They are either Democrap, or Democrap lite. I’d just as soon have the real one, instead of waiting for the knife in the back I expect from the Republicans.
  47. NRxSeptember 06, 2020 8:52 PMI would second keep away but at the same time I think they are going to get clipped in turn, Barr’s special task force clearly had no intention of taking the Antifa assassin alive to be released by some commie judge.

    The American right has been growing a backbone and discarding stupid ideas like muh rule of law, its a miracle of Saint Kyle.Reply
  48. Snidely WhiplashSeptember 06, 2020 9:06 PMUnknown wrote:Roy Cohn and his associates got their hooks into Trump early. Keep in mind that he’s not really one of us (white nationist).
    No, you are not one of us. Go back to Stormfront with the rest of the retardsReply
  49. macus poker blogSeptember 06, 2020 9:10 PMI must admit I’ve yet again underestimated the amount of evil the left is capable of. That’s why we need Trump to win more than ever.
    The military is made of the most patriotic young men. If Biden wins they WILL send them off to die in yet another useless war.Reply
  50. ScottCSeptember 06, 2020 9:13 PMVox is like the character “Billy” from Predator.

    “I don’t know what we’re fighting, but it ain’t no man.”

    Soros is paying Mossad agents to train Antifa top brass.Reply
  51. Doktor JeepSeptember 06, 2020 9:18 PM“And they were successful with you. What has changed? Literally nothing. But now, you’re afraid.”
    I have worked in VIP protection and close in security, and have been an instructor since the late 1990s specializing in self defence – home and car mainly – and gunfighting. I’m using fear in a general sense, not a “hiding under the bed with an SKS” context. No room under there anyway.
    I’m not so concerned for myself but I am worried about the more effective guys and I hope they are taking more precautions.Reply
  52. doctrevSeptember 06, 2020 9:41 PMThatWouldBeTelling wrote:
    Matt Bracken has written up how one such scenario might go. Copy since WordPress took down the original WRSA site they were hosting.


    I had almost forgotten that had existed. It’s almost touching, how the author thought “remember your oath” would have a serious effect on people who are either in it for a paycheque, or for darker reasons. But after the NYPD endorsed Trump, I’m starting to wonder if local law enforcement will merely step aside for either Antifa or the “militia.” More likely they’re going to take ACAB as an aspiration than admonishment, and decide that they’d rather become death squads than be hunted by them.Reply
  53. Canada78BearSeptember 06, 2020 9:49 PMI think it is abundantly clear that Portland is the land of antifa with the local government appeasing them. Sooner sane people get out the better because it is only going to decline from here.
    With their actions back in March I was wondering how long until they rolled out their death squads. Every communist movement has had them.Reply
  54. mapSeptember 06, 2020 9:51 PMSomething of note with those four veterans.

    There is a tactical reason for Antifa to raise the noise and light level when they are directing the mob. The noise and the flash from fireworks drowns out any sights and sounds from gunfire. The mob is conditioned by the fireworks, the strobes, the light and the noise not to panic when they hear gunshots so they will keep moving even when under fire. They are conditioned to regard gunfire as fireworks.
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  55. Doktor JeepSeptember 06, 2020 10:36 PM@46
    Back when I was on faceberg Bracken was in my circles. Up to roughly a year ago I used to exchange messages with him on occasion. A friend of a friend for the most part, and some of the characters in his books are based on real people I used to train with. The one thing that really hangs in my mind is his math for America’s breakup, something on the order of “Bosnia times Rwanda” or something like that.


    I must apologize. I responded like a smart boy to the host with “muh pedigree” so let me clear the record. I’m low tier. More of a background guy doing 101 stuff. In my circles I was known for “training the plumbers and housewives”. Then I would, if they wanted, send them to other trainers for more advanced stuff. I used to train at John Holchem’s range. The gulf wars have provided more people who actually been in combat who are trainers. Being a trainer runs in my family. I don’t know why. I ended up instructing in the ways of the gun back in the late 1990s when the spread between men who can shoot and those who can train was a wide gulf. It’s a numbers game. I know a lot of high speed guys who just can’t manage training students. You have to hit two marks: someone with experience in the subject AND the ability to train. I had the attention and help of some experienced guys who saw what I could do and helped me learn all sorts of things. One was a Marine special ops guy who was getting dropped into Afghanistan before it was popular, the other was a former Ranger who did contracting with the IDF and also security for the Saudi Royals. He also has something to do with the development multicam and I was the first kid on the block to have it. Over the years the gulf wars have produced that low percentage of men with combat experience and the ability to be good instructors. I stepped aside and just stuck to the basics. I went 18 months once without shooting at all, but was always at the range. My carry piece was caked with lint. It still fired. The kind of test that had to be done.
    My last endeavor was to help a friend, an old boomer who saw a few gunfights in Vietnam, start a non-profit training school. I was never a “flashlight around the neck” guy who always yelled so he could be heard over his own tactical superiority. I don’t even like the word “tactical” as it’s used too damned much.

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  56. nswhorseSeptember 06, 2020 10:51 PMTrump, over and over and over again, has tweeted LAW AND ORDER. It is an obvious stand down order to his followers, and a warning to the enemy. It would be wise to take heed, and prepare to enjoy the show when the enemy inevitably does not.Reply
  57. Azure AmaranthineSeptember 06, 2020 10:53 PM“Not when a lot of the locusts who helped make them that way decamp to Red states.”

    This is probably the worst part of this. Sink-the-damn-ships needs to happen at this level of play. Paying no attention when they burn their own cities is easy. Paying no attention when they move to ours can’t be, unless we want ours burning next year.Reply
  58. CrewSeptember 06, 2020 11:12 PM@39: I think the Chinese are funding Antifa, but other countries might be as well.

    However, since the Chinese hate Trump and what he is doing, I think they have the greatest motivation to fund Trump.

    Also, all those people profiting from pedo behavior … they have a motive as well.Reply
  59. Laramie HirschSeptember 07, 2020 1:26 AMOkay, I’m out of the loop. Who is Thomas Wiktor? Been looking him up. He appears to be a reclusive, hard-to-find, heavily-censored guy with opinions. What is his claim to fame, and what has he done? (Sincere question. He seems interesting.)Reply
  60. SciVoSeptember 07, 2020 3:51 AMBrick Hardslab wrote:Whatever they’re doing, they’re not larping. They’re pushing, seeing how far they can go and planning for the next phase.

    I agree. The footsoldiers may be newbies, but they’re learning fast, and the leaders are playing for all of the marbles. They literally intend to overthrow our self-rule, nothing less.Reply
  61. Guy JeanSeptember 07, 2020 5:12 AMFrom a Viva & Barnes Live Stream discussing the Kenosha events. US lawyer Robert Barnes gives some interesting background to these bad-boy organizations, and explains why, if you decide to get involved and bust a few heads to teach someone a lesson, you’re being suckered, played, hook, line and sinker, and you might want to re-think what you’re doing:
    Kyle Rittenhouse JUSTIFIED? Lawyers Explain – Viva & Barnes Live Stream HIGHLIGHT
    https://youtu.be/8L7JQ-KXzWg?t=1348
    “BLM want … cases that lead to complete destruction… And this is their own words… This is why they talk about “systemic” and “institutional” and “structural”. They believe that the only way to reform the system… is to destroy the system. Because they believe that you must destroy it to get to Utopia… And they believe that divisiveness leads to destruction, not uniting cases… They promote fake news narratives that will inflame both sides… That promotes divisiveness. That’s the goal, that’s the objective.


    34:10 https://youtu.be/8L7JQ-KXzWg?t=2050 “This plays into Antifa… Communists need fascists and fascists need communists. .. In the 1920s in Spain, Italy and Germany, fascists were able to rise because of the threat of communism, and communists were able to rise because of fascists. They need each other. And Antifa has been begging to create a conflict. That’s why they love the Proud Boys, they love to create a conflict. .. They love the Patriot Prayer boys. They shot and killed one just the other day in Portland. They want conflict, they want confrontation. This is my counter in Kyle’s (Rittenhouse’s) case with others: “Look I understand why you want to defend yourselves, and that fits very well within our constitutional American history for Kyle Rittenhouse to do what he did… but the flip side is the Left wants to provoke violence and it’s very hard to control that situation, where the National Guard’s not present, and the police are not doing their job or they’re terrified to do it, and you put yourself at great risk and exposure. I think people need to know that fully. I don’t encourage … people to take those actions, but I’m not going to condemn a kid for doing something that our founders said was necessary.”Reply
  62. Gregory the TallSeptember 07, 2020 5:14 AMJust listened to Viva Frei and Robert Barnes discussing Kyle Rittenhouse. Disturbing:
    1. Only a public prosecutor showed up for the extradition hearing.
    2. Lin Wood is currently being sued by all (!) of his colleagues in his law firm.
    3. Robert Barnes sees Lin Wood and the other lawyer (Pierce) already making a lot of mistakes, e.g. Pierce stating publicly that Kyle was part of some militia.
    4. Lin Wood got a lot of money out of the crowdfunding which might be a primary reason for him to hold on to the case.
    5. Barnes said a lot more money is needed
    a. for the security of Kyle (if they let him out) and his family.
    b. for a private investigation of the facts (e.g. finding more smartphone films) and reconnaissance of the enemy who currently is probably producing a lot of false witness statements about the first shooting in particular as the videos about that are unconclusive.Reply
  63. GettimothySeptember 07, 2020 5:42 AM@64 big on twitter for his fascibating analysis of ops in m.e., got banned from twitter.


    He lost his sanity and moved to barcelono, adopted the name C arlos O sweda where he writes children’s books featuring an adorable monkey and his ww1 era flamethrower.

    Some of the above may be slightly embellished.Reply
  64. Gregory the TallSeptember 07, 2020 6:04 AM@69 Correction: Only a public DEFENCE ATTORNEY showed up (I wrote “prosecutor” by mistake)Reply
  65. MarkyMarkSeptember 07, 2020 7:47 AMOf course, all this begs the obvious question: WHY hasn’t Antifa been declared a domestic terror group? Why weren’t they declared domestic terrorists the moment POTUS took his hand off the Bible on Inauguration Day, 2017? Weren’t they causing trouble during the campaign? Weren’t they causing trouble on Inauguration Day? Haven’t they been causing trouble ever since? So WHY haven’t they been declared the domestic terrorists that they are? WHY hasn’t anything been done about them? Why hasn’t POTUS or his AG, Bill Barr, not frozen the assets of those PAYING for Antifa? Why don’t they starve the beast? Finally, why hasn’t George Soros, the man behind Antifa, not been arrested? Why hasn’t his citizenship not been REVOKED? Why is he allowed to be in America at all? Those just some points to ponder…Reply
  66. I’ve Seen Things You People Wouldn’t BelieveSeptember 07, 2020 8:00 AMEither he was ID’d as a Fed, or he was chosen as a test run for the team.Reply
  67. BezzleSeptember 07, 2020 8:56 AM…2 of the 3 videos in the tweet apparently have been vanished now.

    No, really? This wasn’t entirely predictable?

    BitChute and archive.vn exist.
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  68. Grandpa LampshadeSeptember 07, 2020 9:05 AMWhen I read stories about people going into these enemy controlled war zones I always wonder exactly what was the objective. It seems like often it’s:
    1. We’re going to go to commie controlled city and we’ll carry our guns without any idea if or under what circumstances we’ll use them
    2. Commies will do….something
    3. We win!
    Counter this with what I’ve seen and heard about in several towns here in Texas where word got out that the commies were coming to town to raise a ruckus over their statues or whatever and locals showed up in a significant show of force and in the end, commies decided to move on to friendlier territory.
    There is a time to stand up and stop waiting for “somebody to do something” but when someone is calling for you to join them in such, you should seriously be asking what the objective is. If it fails to extend beyond “We’ll parade right through their camp and show them our Trump flag” then I’d recommend a hard pass.Reply
  69. Duke NorfolkSeptember 07, 2020 9:24 AMGuy Jean wrote:communists were able to rise because of fascists.

    Nonsense. They rose there and then the reaction developed. Same is happening here. And Proud Boys and PP are NOT fascists, no matter how you want to define that. But it may be coming yet. “All of a sudden, out of nowhere, Hitler took power.”Reply
  70. AvalancheSeptember 07, 2020 9:32 AM@8 “You don’t invade enemy territory unless you have the force to take it. …
    If they come to another Kenosha, that’s different.”

    Are these not the two sides of a single coin you’re offering?

    Much of the areas closer than ‘suburbs’ to Portland, example: Beaverton, ARE our people. Sure the downtown is perhaps lost, too few of ‘us’ to be worth trying a rescue…. But, if we let our enemies take over, get ensconced and defended, in the MIDDLE of our territory — how is that wise?

    Tet Offensive? Have you not read Matt Bracken’s old essay? https://forwardobserver.com/opinion-islam-europe-and-the-tet-offensive-take-two/

    The enemy moved in by small groups and weapons were shipped in with normal goods; once they had built their forces up big enough, they took over the city and drove ‘us’ out. I cannot imagine it’s a smart move to let our enemies take over an entire ‘capital’ city without resistance; because it becomes the base for their expansion, does it not?

    Did we not learn from the attacks in Kenosha — supplied, supported, and armed BY the “capital’ cities they took over on either side?

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  71. AvalancheSeptember 07, 2020 9:38 AM@10 “What do you win by winning NYC, Chicago, Portland?”

    A protected/protect-able BASE in the midst of our people, land, territory? Within shipping, train, truck, and air transport under their control? Hostages we may or may not be interest in, willing, or able to rescue?

    I commend at least the first 2-3 books in the Steve Stirling (S.M. Stirling) series “Dies the Fire.” First couple set in the PacNW; see how Portland becomes a violent fiefdom of a warlord… Awful lot of deus ex in it, but if you can swallow that; well written and provocative as a ‘what if.’Reply
  72. xevious2030September 07, 2020 9:40 AM“They literally intend to overthrow our self-rule”

    There has been no such thing, no self rule. They do not need to create the situation they already had. If they gave bern ruling us, the only intentional change is to not rule us, which would include the absence of the ruled. These people do not want another set of white people dominating things. They’ve been flooding the US/Europe with non whites. They sent what they thought was a genocidal pathogen. The assassination is a first step in taking the streets, to.facilitate your eventual removal and replacement. Killing one dude in Portland was not the endgame goal. You will fight or be destroyed, but it is a matter of timing and leadership. SSH, Alphas snd Deltas, doesn’t cease to be relevant because “patriots,” it’s even more significant. No Alpha, no fight. The assassins, on the other hand, a den of Gammas, Gamma dynamics.Reply
  73. JaimeInTexasSeptember 07, 2020 9:41 AMWe will know when the time “to start playing for keeps” has already arrived when we hear about rear action against Antifav- their cars and buses begin to burn, Antifa security begin to be shot, etc.Reply
  74. rcoceanSeptember 07, 2020 9:52 AMYes, the Democratic Party staring with Biden/Harris/Schumer/Pelosi along with the MSM is protecting Antifa. And of course, the republican party, other than Trump is completely useless. So, I agree don’t engage. I would note that Rittenhouse did not go to Kenosha to “engage” but wanted to simply defend a local business against looters. He was then attacked and forced to defend himself. BTW, its never been made clear what the Portland Victim was doing in downtown Portland all alone.Reply
  75. rcoceanSeptember 07, 2020 9:53 AMAny group that DOES decide to engage, had better have a good lawyer before they do. To go in without a legal representative on standby is madness.Reply
  76. AvalancheSeptember 07, 2020 9:53 AM@33 “I would love to see Trump address the nation. Lay out all these shenanigans.”

    Emotionally satisfying maybe, but go read up on the Enigma code breaking.

    This is why Q is so often intensely frustrating: *DIS-information* is needed when your enemy is reading your comms.Reply
  77. ThatWouldBeTellingSeptember 07, 2020 9:56 AM@71 Gregory the Tall:

    @69 Correction: Only a public DEFENCE ATTORNEY showed up (I wrote “prosecutor” by mistake)

    His high powered lawyers said right off the bat they were working with the Illinois public defender he was assigned. As long as the latter didn’t betray his client, he got the job done at that hearing, a continuance for a few weeks until the real legal team is assembled, which depending on where the firm has offices likely requires setting several things up so they can practice law in Wisconsin. For that matter, why on earth would they fight extradition except as a very limited delaying tactic?

    If I, who am not even following the case closely, know this, then I seriously doubt the wisdom of this “Viva Frei and Robert Barnes” duo.

    Robert Barnes sees Lin Wood and the other lawyer (Pierce) already making a lot of mistakes, e.g. Pierce stating publicly that Kyle was part of some militia.

    So they’re not lying to the public, let alone the court? Obviously suspicious behavior, Rittenhouse after all joined a “militia” to guard a couple of mechanic’s shops that the rioters hadn’t gotten to yet.Reply
  78. AvalancheSeptember 07, 2020 10:14 AM@59 “to raise the noise and light level …. The noise and the flash from fireworks drowns out any sights and sounds from gunfire”

    That’s how you train police horses too. And retriever dogs.Reply
  79. Ivan ThroneSeptember 07, 2020 10:25 AM
    I told you all three years ago, almost to the day, exactly how this was ending up precisely where it is now:

    https://darktriadman.com/2017/10/07/brutal-clips-12-deadly-new-order-of-battle-for-the-left/

    Vox is correct.

    They are far ahead of you.

    Larping will get you killed.

    IvanReply
  80. ThatWouldBeTellingSeptember 07, 2020 11:28 AM@82 rcocean:

    I would note that Rittenhouse did not go to Kenosha to “engage” but wanted to simply defend a local business against looters.

    More like he went to Kenosha for his lifeguard day job, stayed after his shift to clean up with a bunch of other guys graffiti sprayed on a local public high school, all facts which help him in the political and likely in the court battle, and then was lent an AR-15 to with a group of guys help defend a couple of unrioted mechanic’s shops.

    In another move which helps politically and possibly in the courtroom (it speaks to intent), he went across a street or so to help rioters who’d been pepper sprayed. Intentionally being equipped with a medical kit as well as a rifle was something he emphasized in an interview before things went down, which again helps him.

    After this, the police wouldn’t let him go back to his group, which eventually got him into this trouble. And again something that helps him is his last known action before the firefights, helping to put out an arson fire set by the out of control throughout his life Rosenbaum, which pissed off Rosenbaum and it would appear other rioters.

    Really, with his looks it would be hard to create a better “Boy Scout” (of old) portrait.Reply
  81. Gregory the TallSeptember 07, 2020 11:33 AM@85 You wrote:
    “So they’re not lying to the public, let alone the court? Obviously suspicious behavior, Rittenhouse after all joined a “militia” to guard a couple of mechanic’s shops that the rioters hadn’t gotten to yet.”
    Pierce could and should have chosen completely different words like “My client joined a group of men from the local community to help them save a car repair shop from being burnt to the ground”. The term “militia” obviously comes with all the negative connotations the mainstream media have managed to attach to it (gun-wielding rightwingers, Nazis etc.).Reply
  82. Karen took the Kids September 07, 2020 12:13 PMIn the event you do have to engage a larger group do a bit of googling on Flying Columns, which Sun Tzu write about himself.

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